In this conversation, Radhika Dutt discusses thecomplexities of achieving sustainability goals, particularly the concept of old is nuanced and often involves gaining buy-in for initiatives that lead to larger goals. Dutt likens the process to solving puzzles, where each solved puzzle unlocks the nextchallenge, highlighting the importance of long-term thinking and outcomes over mere outputs.
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Guest speaker
Radhika Dutt – Author of Radical ProductThinking, Advisor to Monetary Authority of Singapore
Contact: www.linkedin.com/in/radhika-dutt/, her book: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Radical-Product-Thinking-Mindset-Innovating/dp/1523093315
Takeaways
Progress might actually mean I finally now have buy-in fromthis initiative.
It's sort of this long haul. It's not a sprint.
Thinking about output versus outcomes isn't alwayseffective.
Constantly thinking about what exactly is this next puzzleis crucial.
I think of it more in terms of like gaming.
Each time you solve the puzzle, you go on to the biggerpuzzle.
Unlock the next puzzle to get to net zero.
Achieving net zero has so much more nuance to it.
This is a long-term journey, not a quick fix.
Sustainability is a constant marathon.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Sustainability Transformations
01:40 The Tyranny of Targets
05:32 Examples of Performative Results
09:56 Alternatives to Target Setting
16:00 Puzzle Setting and Solving Framework
20:03 OHLs: Objectives, Hypotheses, and Learnings
22:30 Outputs vs. Outcomes in Sustainability
25:52 Redesigning Executive Metrics
29:43 Defining a Clear Vision for Sustainability
31:41 The Journey of Writing a Book