Pediatric clinicians have obligations to their patients and law enforcement. But it can be challenging to figure out how to navigate situations where these obligations conflict or where there is uncertainty about the right thing to do. This has increased with recent exectuive branch agendas. Dr. Alyssa Burgart is the Associate Director of Pediatric Bioethics at the Stanford Center for Biomedical Ethics, Medical Director of Ethics for the Stanford Medicine Children’s Health, and writes about ethics and culture in her substack Poppies & Propofol. She joins Dr. Wolfe to discuss the ethics of interacting with law enforcement, speficially immigration and customs enforcement (ICE).