The carbon footprint of worldwide IT already represents 1,5x of civil aviation and it is expected to increase in the upcoming years. A good starting point to look for more sustainable IT and reducing that footprint. We talk with Wilson Camargo Junior (Sustainability and Intelligent Industry Consultant) and discuss the options for IT solutions that have a lower impact on for example CO2 emissions. Simple actions as using your phone a year longer can make a difference. And we can take up that action. It is better to mine the heap of discarded electronics in stead of mining our beloved planet.