This is a timely conversation on the national election with Daniel Pinchbeck, the author of Breaking Open the Head (2002), Quetzalcoatl Returns (2006, originally published as 2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl), and When Plants Dream (with Sophia Rokhlin). His early works helped to initiate the new psychedelic renaissance and consciousness movement. His 2017 book, How Soon Is Now, explored the systemic changes needed to avert ecological collapse and near-term extinction.