In this episode of That One Case, we speak with Jon Hyman, employment and labor lawyer at Wickens Herzer Panzer in Avon, Ohio. Jon focuses on the management side of labor and employment law, providing counsel and representation for businesses on matters regarding employees. Today, Jon tells us the story of a case that was near indefensible, with the facts heavily weighted against his client. He recounts how, even though the case resulted in a defeat, he managed to greatly reduce his client's penalty, and he explains how this case taught him that, in the courts, sometimes defeat is just a matter of perspective.