After more than 4 years since they recorded Episode 60 (Historical Archaeology for the Future) together, Jessica checks back in with Dr. Ayana Omilade Flewellen (they/she; Assistant Professor in the Department of Anthropology at Stanford University and Co-Founder of the Society of Black Archaeologists). The two discuss Dr. Flewellen’s move to Stanford, how Dr. Flewellen’s research focus was entirely flipped on its head, and how they came back from that in a creative way. We also discuss the importance of standardizing excavation for future use as legacy collections. Finally, we discussed the oral history work that they are doing with Diving with a Purpose and even as a cultural anthropologist their methodology was one I had never heard of before!