This episode somewhat an AIxperiment:

Picture this: I’m at "Fantoche", this funky animation festival over in Switzerland. Not so random this time, because both Leonard Mülner from the Total Refusal collective and I were invited to showcase our works and sit on a panel to discuss them. All was so spontaneous and comfy, I only realized afterwards I had recorded the whole thing in German. So what to do now, throw it all away? ooor turn this into an AI experiment? So, I decided to clone our voices, run the interview through some text-to-speech magic, and voilà—an English version! The result however was, let’s say, a bit on the "wooden" side. Turns out, using reading samples instead of conversation samples wasn’t the best move.

Nevertheless, give it a listen: Explore the worlds of digital subversion with Leonard, a key member of the activist art collective Total Refusal. In this spontaneos interview Leonard reveals some insights to the creative processes and motivations behind their work, and how they define the boundaries between art and activism. From exploring virtual landscapes to challenging societal norms through digital mediums, this episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the intersection of technology, art, and resistance. Tune in to hear his thoughts about dystopias, brain-appetizing game concepts and some glimmering rays into an utopian future: Solarpunk. (By the way, you can find the german - unedited - interview attached at the end: 44:10 )