In this episode, Ridge and Shelby tackle what they mean when they say people are “gross”—and no, it’s not table manners or bad hygiene. It’s sheer dresses, wild red-carpet outfits, and fashion choices that seem designed to shock rather than clothe. What starts as a discussion about celebrity style quickly turns into a broader conversation about how outrageous fashion at the top trickles down into everyday life. Ridge tries to keep the conversation focused, while Shelby repeatedly veers into a long-standing grudge against famous people who feel the need to speak loudly outside their lane. Shelby’s issue isn’t with talent—it’s with talented people using their platform to say everything except the thing they’re good at. If you’re great at acting, singing, or entertaining, why not just… do that? The result is an opinionated, occasionally unhinged, and mildly judgmental conversation about style, influence, and why some trends probably should’ve stayed on the red carpet. You can find The Barn Philosopher on all major podcast platforms.If you enjoyed the episode, don’t forget to rate, follow, share it with a friend, and let us know what you think crossed the fashion line.