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The BETWEEN Podcast
Matt Mattson
44 episodes
2 weeks ago
A sacred conversation about sacred conversations. The BETWEEN Podcast lives at the intersection of YOUR FAITH and your daily moments of HUMAN CONNECTION. Hi there. I'm Matt Mattson and I've spent my whole life obsessed with human connection. To tell you the truth, I believe it's spiritual. I think it's divine. I think the fastest and most efficient way to connect with what I understand as "God" is through conversations and interactions with others. THE SPACE BETWEEN US IS SACRED. No matter what you believe (or if you believe), you are welcome here. Welcome to The BETWEEN Podcast.
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A sacred conversation about sacred conversations. The BETWEEN Podcast lives at the intersection of YOUR FAITH and your daily moments of HUMAN CONNECTION. Hi there. I'm Matt Mattson and I've spent my whole life obsessed with human connection. To tell you the truth, I believe it's spiritual. I think it's divine. I think the fastest and most efficient way to connect with what I understand as "God" is through conversations and interactions with others. THE SPACE BETWEEN US IS SACRED. No matter what you believe (or if you believe), you are welcome here. Welcome to The BETWEEN Podcast.
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Shannon TL Kearns: "No One Taught Me How To Be A Man"
The BETWEEN Podcast
1 hour 1 minute 1 second
10 months ago
Shannon TL Kearns: "No One Taught Me How To Be A Man"

In this episode of The BETWEEN Podcast, we explore the challenges of sacred connection... especially for men.

Shannon TL Kearns is a transgender man who believes in the transformative power of story. As an ordained priest, a playwright, a theologian, and a writer all of his work revolves around making meaning through story.

Shannon’s first book In the Margins: A Transgender Man’s Journey With Scripture is available now from Eerdman’s Books. He has three books forthcoming: No One Taught Me How To Be A Man: What A Trans Man’s Experience Reveals About Masculinity (Broadleaf), Come and See: An Invitation To A Radical Encounter With Jesus A Youth Devotional (Hodder Faith), Reading the Bible Through Queer Eyes (HarperOne, co-written with Brian G. Murphy). 

Shannon is a recipient of the Louisville Pastoral Study Grant for 2025/2026, the Humanitas New Voices Fellowship for 2022, a Playwrights’ Center Jerome Fellowship in 20/21 and he was a Lambda Literary Fellow for 2019 in playwriting and in 2022 for screenwriting. He was a Finnovation Fellow for 2019/2020. He is a sought after speaker on transgender issues and religion as well as a skilled facilitator of a variety of workshops. 

Shannon co-founded QueerTheology.com with Brian G. Murphy. Since its start in 2013, this work has reached more than two million people all over the world through videos, articles, and online courses and community. Their Queer Theology podcast is the longest running LGBTQ+ Christian podcast. 

Selected recognition: Winner of the ScreenCraft Pitch competition, finalist for Bull City Film Festival for his pilot Transformed. Winner of the New Hope Film Festival for best premium/tv script. He’s been a playwright in residence at the Inge House, participated in the Seven Devils’ Playwright Conference and the Great Plains Theatre Conference. He was a semi-finalist for the O’Neill and a finalist for the Blue Ink playwriting award.

Shannon’s plays include Laughing, Flexing, Dying, The Stories We Tell At The End Of The World, Body+Blood, in a stand of dying trees, Line of Sight, Twisted Deaths, The Resistance of My Skin, and Who Has Eyes To See.  


  • Shannon's Website: https://www.shannontlkearns.com/
The BETWEEN Podcast
A sacred conversation about sacred conversations. The BETWEEN Podcast lives at the intersection of YOUR FAITH and your daily moments of HUMAN CONNECTION. Hi there. I'm Matt Mattson and I've spent my whole life obsessed with human connection. To tell you the truth, I believe it's spiritual. I think it's divine. I think the fastest and most efficient way to connect with what I understand as "God" is through conversations and interactions with others. THE SPACE BETWEEN US IS SACRED. No matter what you believe (or if you believe), you are welcome here. Welcome to The BETWEEN Podcast.