Getting burned out busting your rear to sell tickets at traditional music venues, only to have little-to-no money to show for it at the end of the night? Tired of the unending rat race of trying to play bigger venues in front of more people to feel like you've, "made it?"

Legendary singer/songwriter, Derek Webb, decided to get off that hamster wheel and instead built a career around playing for the smallest audiences possible.

In this episode we talk with my top Book Your Band Podcast dream guest, Derek Webb, about why he stopped touring mid-cap venues to focus on exclusively playing house shows.

This episode is filled with over thirty years of wisdom and experience from one of my all-time musical heroes. We discuss "the intimacy business," building your tribe, and finding more fulfillment (and better paydays) playing in living rooms than packed out mid-cap venues.

Again, a huge thank you to Derek for his time and kindness. Hanging out with him was a dream come true for this lifelong fan. Be sure to visit Derek online at www.derekwebb.com and @derekwebb on social media.

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