This episode highlights two interviews on legislative advocacy in the U.S. craft brewing industry. To begin we discuss the Brewers Association Hill Climb in Washington, D.C., emphasizing its role in strengthening ties with lawmakers and advancing issues like excise tax credits, research funding, and shipping rules. Then we are joined by Travis Bailey and Adriane Hodges from the Texas Craft Brewers Guild. They share their work on the “Beers for Steers” bill, which would give tax credits to brewers donating spent grain to local farmers. They reflect on the challenges of navigating the legislative process and stress the importance of persistence and engagement for other craft brewing organizations. Overall, both interviews underscore the critical role of advocacy in sustaining and growing the craft beer industry.