Dave Nordel is a retired United States Air Force Command Chief Master Sergeant with over 30 years of service; Dave is the recipient of a Bronze Star and the Legion of Merit, our nation’s 6th highest military decoration. After leaving home at 19 to join the Air Force and ascended through the enlisted ranks to culminate as the senior enlisted leader for all nuclear missile forces in the United States. He is the author of the international best-selling books Giving Back – Life and Leadership from the Farm to the Combat Zone and Beyond and When the Cows Lie Down – Why people quit you – their Leader Now, Dave is the founder of Max Fab Consulting providing keynote leadership, organizational growth, and strategic guidance, and he is actively involved in using his journey with PTSD and moral injury to help transitioning veterans and other victims of trauma deal with the condition in a healthy manner.   Dave and I discuss:  - Leadership lessons on the farm  - Learning to navigate high performance environments - The value of introverts in leadership - Why empathy is a superpower for leaders