Apologies for my (Joe) terrible audio in this one. Not sure what happened. Nothing was changed, it just came out weird. It gets better as the ep goes on.

Apart from technical issues, this our best episode yet. We cracked the code on this one. I hope you enjoy and please share your thoughts on our takes (the takes are a fair bit milder on this one, we even agree on some things!).

As always, thank you for listening.