Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv take a deep-dive into Larry Shiner's book The Invention of Art (2001), commenting on the contents from the perspective of classical painting and culture.
Part one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzyAwlZ1kLg
Part two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huNHIxGAMn8
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Chapter markers:
00:00 Biggest takeaways so far
05:27 19th century: modernist rhetoric and “Art“ as an independent realm
08:02 Finding the purest of the fine arts
10:30 Changing the meaning of “culture“
12:12 Art as religion
19:57 Pre-modernists and Roman frog eyes
24:17 The Saint and Martyr Syndrom
27:29 “The descent of the artisan“
34:41 Architecture: art or craft…?
41:49 The term “disinterestedness“
45:00 The final consolidation of “Art“
48:47 Photography: was it ever a threat?
55:40 Modernism 1890-1930
1:06:18 The 1930´s & representational styles
1:09:00 Modernism as “anti-totalitarian“
1:14:05 Repeating the art vs craft division
1:19:25 Post-Modernism as an alternative?
1:22:51 A people without identity & a third system of the arts
This episode featured Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed by Öde Nerdrum and Jikke Gruwel.
The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope.
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Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv take a deep-dive into Larry Shiner's book The Invention of Art (2001), commenting on the contents from the perspective of classical painting and culture.
Part one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzyAwlZ1kLg
Part two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huNHIxGAMn8
👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts:
https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/
Chapter markers:
00:00 Biggest takeaways so far
05:27 19th century: modernist rhetoric and “Art“ as an independent realm
08:02 Finding the purest of the fine arts
10:30 Changing the meaning of “culture“
12:12 Art as religion
19:57 Pre-modernists and Roman frog eyes
24:17 The Saint and Martyr Syndrom
27:29 “The descent of the artisan“
34:41 Architecture: art or craft…?
41:49 The term “disinterestedness“
45:00 The final consolidation of “Art“
48:47 Photography: was it ever a threat?
55:40 Modernism 1890-1930
1:06:18 The 1930´s & representational styles
1:09:00 Modernism as “anti-totalitarian“
1:14:05 Repeating the art vs craft division
1:19:25 Post-Modernism as an alternative?
1:22:51 A people without identity & a third system of the arts
This episode featured Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed by Öde Nerdrum and Jikke Gruwel.
The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope.
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The Æsir, Vanir & Jötnar | Bronze Age Blending, War and Trade | Norse Mythology Pt. 1
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51 minutes 46 seconds
2 years ago
The Æsir, Vanir & Jötnar | Bronze Age Blending, War and Trade | Norse Mythology Pt. 1
Jan-Ove Tuv sits down with Sturla Ellingvåg to dive deep into norse mythology.
Ellingvåg is the historian behind the Viking Stories channel on YouTube .
He is associated with the Max Planck Institute in Germany, and is convinced that history has to be studied in a broader context than current fashion allows.
We have previously released an interview with Ellingvåg on this channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFeje-6fYmw
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Chapter markers:
00:00 Can we trust Snorre's "Edda"?
08:04 The Yamnaya warriors from the Armenian highlands
10:23 Crisis and mixing
12:26 Bronze Age blending: the Jötnar, Æsir & Vanir
15:57 Mobility, boat types and trade
23:00 “Euhemerism“ and “Hieros gamos“
25:38 Different priorities for agriculturalists and warriors
30:50 What always happens after catastrophes
34:43 DNA studies from the east
38:18 Trading hostages - an Indo-European way of ruling
40:37 Horse & carriage
42:55 The marriage between Njord and Skade: culturally too different?
45:03 The strange heritage of Norse individualism and conformity
This episode featured Sturla Ellingvåg & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.
The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope.
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The Cave of Apelles
Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv take a deep-dive into Larry Shiner's book The Invention of Art (2001), commenting on the contents from the perspective of classical painting and culture.
Part one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzyAwlZ1kLg
Part two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huNHIxGAMn8
👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts:
https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/
Chapter markers:
00:00 Biggest takeaways so far
05:27 19th century: modernist rhetoric and “Art“ as an independent realm
08:02 Finding the purest of the fine arts
10:30 Changing the meaning of “culture“
12:12 Art as religion
19:57 Pre-modernists and Roman frog eyes
24:17 The Saint and Martyr Syndrom
27:29 “The descent of the artisan“
34:41 Architecture: art or craft…?
41:49 The term “disinterestedness“
45:00 The final consolidation of “Art“
48:47 Photography: was it ever a threat?
55:40 Modernism 1890-1930
1:06:18 The 1930´s & representational styles
1:09:00 Modernism as “anti-totalitarian“
1:14:05 Repeating the art vs craft division
1:19:25 Post-Modernism as an alternative?
1:22:51 A people without identity & a third system of the arts
This episode featured Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed by Öde Nerdrum and Jikke Gruwel.
The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope.
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Fergus Ryan
Matthias Proy
Diego
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