In this episode, I talk to my longtime friend, Mary Zook. Listen as she shares her journey from growing up Mennonite with Amish roots (her dad was shunned by the Pennsylvania Amish community and Pennsylvania Dutch was her first language) to becoming a Dean at a Bible College, to helping launch a worship ministry, and then, in 2019, becoming a Dallas luxury realtor who lists multi-million-dollar homes. 

We talk about Amish shunning, finding real faith after rejecting religion, how worship songs actually make money, the wild pivot into high-end real estate, and the one simple rule she follows before every big life change. 

A must-listen if you love Amish stories, redemption testimonies, worship music history, or luxury real estate.