Is clean energy really clean? Or are skeptics right when they point to lithium mining, solar panel waste, or offshore wind turbines? In this episode of The Clean Energy Edge Podcast, Russ Bates takes on the myth that renewables are just as dirty as fossil fuels — and brings the receipts. We break down the science and data on: Offshore wind vs. whales: What NOAA and BOEM actually say. Lifecycle emissions: Wind (10–20 g CO₂e/kWh), Solar (30–60), Natural Gas (450–500), Coal (900–1,100). Carbon payback: Why renewables erase their upfront footprint in 1–3 years while coal and gas pollute forever. Lithium mining vs. oil spills: One-time material investment vs. 2.5 billion gallons of oil spilled in the U.S. every year. Land & biodiversity: Coal and gas destroy more land per unit of energy than solar, while wind’s bird impact is a fraction of everyday hazards. Waste & pollution: Coal ash ponds and CO₂ vs. recyclable panels, blades, and batteries. Bottom line: Clean energy isn’t perfect, but fossil fuels are the environmental wrecking ball we’ve lived with for a century. 📌 If this helped cut through the noise, hit subscribe, drop a comment, and share this with a friend still quoting Facebook memes about “dirty solar panels."