In this episode, we break down one of the biggest mindset shifts happening in the industry: moving away from old-school, boundary-based security and stepping fully into Zero Trust.

Oscar Papel explains why the “build a wall and hope for the best” approach just doesn’t work anymore. You fix one issue and another pops up, and modern threats move way too fast for reactive security.

We dive into what Zero Trust actually looks like in real environments, how teams are adapting, and why assuming nothing is safe is becoming the only realistic strategy.From infrastructure challenges to culture shifts, this conversation gets into the real-world side of making Zero Trust stick, not the textbook version.

If you’re navigating today’s security landscape or trying to modernize your org, this episode will hit home.

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