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The Counter Offer
Susanna Gray-Jones
61 episodes
2 weeks ago
The Business focused podcast to help you achieve clarity, improve your mindset and succeed in ways that you didn't even know possible. Susanna Gray-Jones is a Cambridge-educated recruitment strategist and owner of Chime Search - a Rec2Rec executive search firm. She believes that it is simply not worth being a mediocre recruiter. She is on a mission to improve the likelihood of success in the career of a recruiter to ensure that they have all the tools to be A-grade, first-class recruiters.
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The Business focused podcast to help you achieve clarity, improve your mindset and succeed in ways that you didn't even know possible. Susanna Gray-Jones is a Cambridge-educated recruitment strategist and owner of Chime Search - a Rec2Rec executive search firm. She believes that it is simply not worth being a mediocre recruiter. She is on a mission to improve the likelihood of success in the career of a recruiter to ensure that they have all the tools to be A-grade, first-class recruiters.
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From Burnout to Boundaries: Susanna Gray Gets Real About Starting Over
The Counter Offer
43 minutes 21 seconds
5 months ago
From Burnout to Boundaries: Susanna Gray Gets Real About Starting Over

"What if the worst thing that ever happened to you turned out to be the thing that set you free?"


In this deeply personal episode, Susanna Gray opens up to her new co-host, Tiarna McCormack, about life after heartbreak, single motherhood, and building back stronger, personally and professionally. With honesty, humor, and a lot of heart, the two talk about emotional resilience, dating in your late 30s, balancing ambition with boundaries, and why your tribe—and your playlist—might just be the most powerful tools you have.


Part career reflection, part therapy session, and 100% real talk, this episode is a must-listen for anyone navigating change, rebuilding confidence, or simply trying to do life on their own terms.


Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments

  • From Dubai to Bristol – Susanna shares the emotional and logistical shifts that came with moving countries post-breakup and how she’s navigating solo parenting, business-building, and identity changes all at once.

  • The Music That Heals – Both co-hosts discuss how motivational playlists and nostalgic songs have helped them process grief, move through pain, and reconnect to joy.

  • Dating Like a Recruiter – Susanna reveals her time-saving “video vetting” approach to dating—and how it mirrors her recruitment strategy. Spoiler: it’s intense, effective, and surprisingly hilarious.

  • Choosing Values Over Vibes – The duo explores how aligning on values (not just chemistry) is the secret to choosing the right partner, whether in love or leadership.

  • AI, Authenticity & The Future of Recruitment – They weigh in on AI’s role in recruitment, what automation can never replace, and why emotional intelligence is the ultimate skill of the future.

  • Your People Are Your Power – Susanna reflects on how her support network helped her survive one of the hardest years of her life—and how deep connection is the legacy she wants to leave behind.


Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode


  • “This broke me. But I chose to build something better from the rubble.” – Susanna Gray

  • “You don’t need to play it cool. You need to play it real.” – Susanna Gray

  • “I used to think success was sunshine and salary. Now, it’s peace and alignment.” – Susanna Gray

  • “There’s no AI that can replace intuition, connection, or trust.” – Susanna Gray

  • “Recruitment is like dating—you need to vet hard before you invest.” – Tiarna McCormack

  • “Being intense isn’t a flaw. It’s how I move with purpose.” – Susanna Gray

  • “If they can’t handle your honesty, they’re not your people.” – Tiarna McCormack

  • “You’ll never find clarity if you’re too afraid to sit with yourself.” – Tiarna McCormack

  • “Know your values. Align your life accordingly. Everything else is noise.” – Susanna Gray

  • “Pain makes you pause. But it also makes you powerful.” – Tiarna McCormack


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The Counter Offer
The Business focused podcast to help you achieve clarity, improve your mindset and succeed in ways that you didn't even know possible. Susanna Gray-Jones is a Cambridge-educated recruitment strategist and owner of Chime Search - a Rec2Rec executive search firm. She believes that it is simply not worth being a mediocre recruiter. She is on a mission to improve the likelihood of success in the career of a recruiter to ensure that they have all the tools to be A-grade, first-class recruiters.