Philip welcomes Luke Kemp, the author of the bestselling work, Goliath’s Curse: The History and Future of Societal Collapse. In their conversation they dissect Luke’s thesis on what collapse means and how its impact is unevenly distributed and how it has changed over the centuries now we live in a “global goliath”.

The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.

Philip’s Drop:
https://www.scottmccloud.com/2-print/4-zot/index.html

Luke’s Drop:
Merhcants of Doubt – Naomi Oreskes/Erik Conway
Against the Grain – James C. Scott
Gangster States: Organized Crime, Kleptocracy and Political Collapse – Katherine Hirschfeld

Special Guest: Luke Kemp.