Musicians and artists with day jobs - welcome. This podcast is dedicated to you, and we'll be giving you all the cheat codes we've learned from making art in the margins for the last ten years. We're Ryan and Carisa Downs, independent musicians making everything from home, plus marriage and kids, plus day jobs and side hustles, releasing a new song to our grassroots and growing listeners every month. We'll tell you what to do and what not to do to release your own music consistently, even (especially) if you have a life.