In this episode, JP explores something which has, or will, affect us all, with grief counsellor, speaker and personal trainer, JoDee Coulter. In a conversation both deep and absorbing, they explore primary grief, and secondary grief - its obvious sibling - which everyone overlooks. They discuss how grief can affect us, but more importantly what we can do about it. And above all, WHO we can be for our clients, friends and family in times of grief. This exchange is peppered with knowledge bombs and realisations that will have you sitting back and reflecting for some time afterwards. A little bit about JoDee… JoDee Coulter is a Bereavement Coordinator Certified in Thanatology with 25 years experience working in the hospice setting. She began her healthcare career as a Licensed and Board-Certified Music Therapist working with diversified populations prior to transitioning to hospice. She finds fulfillment in supporting the bereaved in their grief utilizing the creative arts, as well as designing and facilitating support groups that meet the needs of her community. She also enjoys educating through presentations on topics such as this one today. She learned firsthand the role of a caregiver when her husband was diagnosed with a rare adult-onset form of muscular dystrophy (Kennedy’s Disease) just three years into their marriage. She understands grief on many levels and the vital importance of self-care while being a caregiver JoDee became certified as a personal trainer in 2018 for personal and professional reasons. She now combines her passions for fitness, grief, and holistic wellness to support and encourage caregivers; moreover, she works to inspire individuals who want to take their health to a new level. She wants everyone to know how much better you can feel when you move your body, eat well, and have an opportunity for self-expression.