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The Forest School Podcast
Lewis Ames and Wem Southerden
236 episodes
1 week ago
Wem Southerden & Lewis Ames have run Forest School and training centre Children of the Forest since 2017. The Forest School Podcast was born when they wondered if their daily wafflechats and reflections about pedagogy, play and nature connection might be of interest to others. The podcast aims to inform and support educators, parents, outdoor and play practitioners and anyone interested in nature and the outdoors. Through book reviews – interviews with experts, practitioners and authors – sharing our experience as educators and business owners – deep dives on fascinating topics –
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Wem Southerden & Lewis Ames have run Forest School and training centre Children of the Forest since 2017. The Forest School Podcast was born when they wondered if their daily wafflechats and reflections about pedagogy, play and nature connection might be of interest to others. The podcast aims to inform and support educators, parents, outdoor and play practitioners and anyone interested in nature and the outdoors. Through book reviews – interviews with experts, practitioners and authors – sharing our experience as educators and business owners – deep dives on fascinating topics –
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Ep 225 - What defines 'Ready for School'? w/ Dr Alistair Bryce-Clegg
The Forest School Podcast
59 minutes 37 seconds
3 months ago
Ep 225 - What defines 'Ready for School'? w/ Dr Alistair Bryce-Clegg

In this lively and wide-ranging episode of The Forest School Podcast, Lewis and Wem are joined by Dr Alistair Bryce-Clegg for a passionate conversation about early years education, authentic child development, and how political targets can squeeze the joy out of childhood. From the UK government’s 75% ‘good level of development’ goal to the cultural biases baked into classroom expectations, Alistair shares decades of experience as a teacher, head, author, and consultant. The discussion challenges compliance-focused models, explores the link between environment and behaviour, and highlights the importance of safe failure and intrinsically motivated play. With powerful anecdotes from around the world – from Cumbria classrooms to Icelandic snow schools and Australian bush kindy – this episode is a call to create spaces where all children can flourish, indoors and out.

⏱ Chapter Timings:
00:00 – Introducing Dr Alistair Bryce-Clegg and his unexpected journey into early years
03:14 – The politics of ‘school readiness’ and targets not based on child development
07:36 – Cultural differences, compliance vs engagement, and the risk of starting too soon
12:20 – Why typical behaviour is often punished – and the gender bias in compliance
17:01 – International examples of environments that foster genuine listening
22:40 – Narrowing age bands, Ofsted pressure, and creating authentic spaces for all children
27:54 – Forest School, play-based learning, and the value of safe failure
35:40 – Training, bias, and the risk of disillusionment with learning
44:02 – Forest School as a ‘pressure valve’ vs an integrated approach to wellbeing
53:58 – Advocating for autodidactic learning in a system built for compliance

🌲 Keywords: early years education, school readiness, good level of development, authentic child development, compliance vs engagement, play-based learning, safe failure, gender bias in education, Ofsted pressure, forest school ethos, outdoor learning, international education, neurodiversity, classroom environment, intrinsic motivation

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The Forest School Podcast
Wem Southerden & Lewis Ames have run Forest School and training centre Children of the Forest since 2017. The Forest School Podcast was born when they wondered if their daily wafflechats and reflections about pedagogy, play and nature connection might be of interest to others. The podcast aims to inform and support educators, parents, outdoor and play practitioners and anyone interested in nature and the outdoors. Through book reviews – interviews with experts, practitioners and authors – sharing our experience as educators and business owners – deep dives on fascinating topics –