In this stirring episode, Dr. Constantine R. Campbell—New Testament scholar, jazz musician, and author—returns to the Forum Podcast with Dr. Aaron Einfeld, Director of Lifelong Learning at Calvin Theological Seminary, to explore how personal crisis, ministry burnout, and spiritual deconstruction can become doorways to deeper grace and renewed faith. Drawing from his own story of vocational collapse, emotional healing, and the long road back to the pulpit, Dr. Campbell offers a vulnerable and wise reflection on the state of the American church. Along the way, he considers: Why the church must embrace humility or face collapse What it means to be spiritually reconstructed after burnout How jazz offers a surprising model for freedom within formation Why churches must become safe places for doubt and honesty What early church history teaches us about empire and renewal A moving, timely conversation for anyone disillusioned, burned out, or yearning for a faith that still breathes.