Jacob Siegel, senior editor at Tablet Magazine and author of the brilliant "Guide to Understanding the Hoax of the Century" article about "disinformation" efforts joins Steve Krakauer to talk about getting into journalism and his time in the military, why it was so important to focus on the topic of "disinformation" and the counter-"disinformation" efforts by the media and intel agencies, how 9/11 was a key factor in all of this, class interest above all else, COVID and "disinformation," the usefulness of the January 6 riot in these efforts, the backstory of Graphika and how intel agencies work with the media to spin the public, Tucker Carlson's place in the media environment amid critiques of the "ruling class" and Jacob's connection to Tucker's firing, and more. Here's Jacob's must-read piece: https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/guide-understanding-hoax-century-thirteen-ways-looking-disinformation See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.