In this episode, Samantha sits down with David McCloskey, author of DAMASCUS STATION, MOSCOW X, THE SEVENTH FLOOR, and now The Persian. McCloskey opens up about his writing process—how a terrible first draft turns into a masterclass spy novel—and the challenge of creating authentic tradecraft without giving away secrets. They talk redemption, moral gray zones, and why he thinks all of us might be “double agents” in our own lives. You’ll also hear how his wife plays the role of first reader, how real spy stories sneak into his fiction, and what might be next for his Hollywood deals.