In this episode, Lisa Cherivtch interviews Leslie Van Wolvelear, an accounting professor who specializes in gamification in education. They discuss the importance of engaging students through fun and interactive activities, both in face-to-face and online learning environments. Leslie shares her journey into gamification, her experiences with creating escape rooms and quests, and the impact of these strategies on student motivation and learning outcomes. The conversation emphasizes the need for educators to adapt to the changing landscape of student engagement and the benefits of networking and collaboration in implementing gamification