The GovMaker Podcast is an interview series that uncovers the how of public sector innovation. Join co-hosts Nick Scott and Jason Pearman as they engage with leaders who have been entrusted with significant mandates to reform and transform public services.
In a field crowded with frameworks and toolkits, the podcast focuses on the craft required to deliver change inside government.
Each episode features inspiring stories and practical insights that surface the patterns, skills, and strategies that enable meaningful transformation in public services.
If you are a practitioner, leader, or funder passionate about achieving better outcomes through government, this podcast is your guide.
The GovMaker Podcast is an interview series that uncovers the how of public sector innovation. Join co-hosts Nick Scott and Jason Pearman as they engage with leaders who have been entrusted with significant mandates to reform and transform public services.
In a field crowded with frameworks and toolkits, the podcast focuses on the craft required to deliver change inside government.
Each episode features inspiring stories and practical insights that surface the patterns, skills, and strategies that enable meaningful transformation in public services.
If you are a practitioner, leader, or funder passionate about achieving better outcomes through government, this podcast is your guide.

In this conversation, Nick Scott questioned Jason Pearman about his Hero journey as a public servant. Jason breaks down the process of transforming government and shares his experiences in implementing innovative practices. He discusses the Open Policymaking Toolkit and the importance of providing the right level of information and technical assistance to professionals. Jason also highlights the role of champions and supporters in crafting an enabling environment for innovation in the public sector.