The GovMaker Podcast is an interview series that uncovers the how of public sector innovation. Join co-hosts Nick Scott and Jason Pearman as they engage with leaders who have been entrusted with significant mandates to reform and transform public services.
In a field crowded with frameworks and toolkits, the podcast focuses on the craft required to deliver change inside government.
Each episode features inspiring stories and practical insights that surface the patterns, skills, and strategies that enable meaningful transformation in public services.
If you are a practitioner, leader, or funder passionate about achieving better outcomes through government, this podcast is your guide.
The GovMaker Podcast is an interview series that uncovers the how of public sector innovation. Join co-hosts Nick Scott and Jason Pearman as they engage with leaders who have been entrusted with significant mandates to reform and transform public services.
In a field crowded with frameworks and toolkits, the podcast focuses on the craft required to deliver change inside government.
Each episode features inspiring stories and practical insights that surface the patterns, skills, and strategies that enable meaningful transformation in public services.
If you are a practitioner, leader, or funder passionate about achieving better outcomes through government, this podcast is your guide.

In this conversation, Nick Scott shares his experiences and insights on driving innovation and change within government. He discusses the importance of serendipity and how seemingly unrelated experiences and connections can come together to create opportunities. Nick also talks about the challenges he faced in changing the culture of government and the need for empathy and self-care in leadership roles. He highlights the value of building networks and creating spaces for experimentation and learning. Stay tuned for the release of the last episode of the season next Wednesday with a special guest!