The GovMaker Podcast is an interview series that uncovers the how of public sector innovation. Join co-hosts Nick Scott and Jason Pearman as they engage with leaders who have been entrusted with significant mandates to reform and transform public services.
In a field crowded with frameworks and toolkits, the podcast focuses on the craft required to deliver change inside government.
Each episode features inspiring stories and practical insights that surface the patterns, skills, and strategies that enable meaningful transformation in public services.
If you are a practitioner, leader, or funder passionate about achieving better outcomes through government, this podcast is your guide.
The GovMaker Podcast is an interview series that uncovers the how of public sector innovation. Join co-hosts Nick Scott and Jason Pearman as they engage with leaders who have been entrusted with significant mandates to reform and transform public services.
In a field crowded with frameworks and toolkits, the podcast focuses on the craft required to deliver change inside government.
Each episode features inspiring stories and practical insights that surface the patterns, skills, and strategies that enable meaningful transformation in public services.
If you are a practitioner, leader, or funder passionate about achieving better outcomes through government, this podcast is your guide.

In this episode, Judy Wagner, former Clerk of the Executive Council of Government of New Brunswick, shares her insights on evidence-based policy-making. She highlights the importance of engaging stakeholders, being iterative in policy development, and building relationships with academics to inform policy decisions. Wagner also emphasizes the need for funding for evaluation components within projects and programs. Finally, she pays tribute to the late Andy Scott and his passion for making New Brunswick a better place through evidence-based policy-making.