In this conversation, Joe and Triple M delve into the complex nature of reality, exploring various philosophical perspectives from Plato, Aristotle, and Taoism. They discuss the implications of change and harmony in understanding reality, the limitations of human perception, and the fascinating realm of quantum reality. The dialogue also touches on the concept of reality tunnels, emphasizing how individual perspectives shape our understanding of the world around us. In this conversation, Joe and Triple M explore the intricate relationship between beliefs and reality, discussing how personal experiences and divine moments shape individual perceptions. They delve into the impact of faith, logic, and reason on one's worldview, while also examining real-world examples, such as the events of January 6th, to illustrate the complexities of belief systems and their implications on societal narratives.   Takeaways Reality encompasses everything that is knowable, independent of perception. Plato's theory suggests that the physical world is a mere shadow of true reality. Aristotle emphasized understanding reality through empirical observation. Taoism teaches that reality is a process of change and harmony with nature. Human senses limit our perception of reality, leaving much undiscovered. Quantum reality challenges our understanding of existence and observation. Schrodinger's cat illustrates the role of observation in defining reality. Reality tunnels allow individuals to explore and understand different perspectives. The interplay of societal norms and personal beliefs shapes our reality. Understanding and accepting change is crucial for navigating reality. You have to want to change, or at least be open to it. Beliefs can shape reality just as much as empirical observations. Many people's beliefs are formed through personal experiences. Beliefs can sometimes contradict observable reality. The power of belief can influence daily actions and traditions. Divine experiences can be interpreted in various ways. Logic and reason are essential filters for understanding reality. Beliefs can create a reality tunnel that shapes perceptions. The media can manipulate narratives, impacting public belief. It's crucial to differentiate between subjective beliefs and objective truths.