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The Heart of Entrepreneurship
Dave Kashen and Jesse Pujji
21 episodes
6 days ago
Entrepreneurship is about more than your income statement.
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Entrepreneurship is about more than your income statement.
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Entrepreneurship
Business,
Management
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Lonely at the Top: Why Success Can Still Feel Empty
The Heart of Entrepreneurship
53 minutes
6 days ago
Lonely at the Top: Why Success Can Still Feel Empty

Lonely at the Top: How Success Can Disconnect Founders From Themselves

What if chasing success actually makes you feel less fulfilled? In this episode, Jesse and Dave unpack Brian Chesky’s viral reflection on the loneliness he felt after Airbnb's $100B IPO. Despite achieving the dream, he felt disconnected, empty, and unsure of how he got there.

This sparks a raw, personal conversation about ego, identity, self-worth, and the invisible emotional toll of entrepreneurship. From the "drama triangle" to the belief that success = love, this episode cuts deep—and offers a path out.

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⏱️ Episode Breakdown

00:00 – Brian Chesky’s viral post: loneliness after $100B success
02:50 – Loneliness at the top: why success doesn’t equal being loved
06:00 – The perfect life you’re not living: founder stuck in grind
08:00 – Authenticity, masks, and leadership loneliness
11:00 – Selfish entrepreneurship and the cost of success
13:30 – Founders and identity: “This is me” vs. the business
17:00 – Vulnerability in leadership: openness builds trust
20:45 – Imposter syndrome: you’re supposed to be an imposter
22:45 – Dirty fuel vs. clean fuel: compulsion vs. presence
24:30 – Fear vs. love isn’t binary—lead with heart and strength
26:45 – Are you contracted or expanded? A body-based check-in
30:00 – Do you wish things were different? Resistance = suffering
33:18 – The Drama Triangle explained: Victim, Villain, Hero
36:15 – How to spot the triangle in yourself (and your team)
39:00 – Once you see it, you can’t unsee it
42:00 – Drama triangle in relationships and leadership
44:00 – Tactical tool: write down the triangle to gain clarity
46:00 – Responsibility and empowerment: the way out
48:00 – Founder conflict example: pipeline report frustration
52:00 – Unconscious worldviews that reinforce the drama
53:30 – Final challenge: notice the story loops and reclaim your power

🧠 What You’ll Learn
• How ego traps founders in loneliness and inauthenticity

• What the “Drama Triangle” is and how to escape it

• The truth about self-worth, identity, and high achievement

• Why imposter syndrome is a feature, not a bug

• How to stay open-hearted and fierce as a leader

• Practical ways to shift from blame to ownership—and get unstuck fast

If you’ve ever hit a big goal only to feel… hollow… this conversation will make you feel seen—and give you the tools to reorient toward wholeness.
💬 Let us know in the comments: which role do you default to—Victim, Villain, or Hero?
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The Heart of Entrepreneurship
Entrepreneurship is about more than your income statement.