Guest: Ling Li Summary In this conversation, Helen Avadiar-Nimbalker speaks with investigative journalist Ling Li and advocate Michelle B.J. Moore about the complexities of the scam industry in Southeast Asia, which intertwines with human trafficking, organized crime, and exploitation. They discuss the brutal realities faced by victims, the challenges of rescue operations, and the urgent need for collaboration among NGOs, law enforcement, and the private sector. The conversation highlights t...
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Guest: Ling Li Summary In this conversation, Helen Avadiar-Nimbalker speaks with investigative journalist Ling Li and advocate Michelle B.J. Moore about the complexities of the scam industry in Southeast Asia, which intertwines with human trafficking, organized crime, and exploitation. They discuss the brutal realities faced by victims, the challenges of rescue operations, and the urgent need for collaboration among NGOs, law enforcement, and the private sector. The conversation highlights t...
Scam centers are flooding headlines — but what’s really going on behind the screens? In this first episode of The Human Trace, Helen Avadiar-Nimbalker is joined by friends and co-thinkers Mechelle Moore and BC Tan to unpack the hidden realities behind scam centers: forced criminality, trafficking, torture, and the growing underground economy built on human suffering. This conversation explores the deeper layers — from recruitment tactics and political complicity, to what happens when survivor...
The Human Trace
Guest: Ling Li Summary In this conversation, Helen Avadiar-Nimbalker speaks with investigative journalist Ling Li and advocate Michelle B.J. Moore about the complexities of the scam industry in Southeast Asia, which intertwines with human trafficking, organized crime, and exploitation. They discuss the brutal realities faced by victims, the challenges of rescue operations, and the urgent need for collaboration among NGOs, law enforcement, and the private sector. The conversation highlights t...
