The IR thinker features in-depth interviews with leading experts in international relations, foreign policy, and global affairs.
The IR thinker is an independent, non-partisan and non-aligned platform. It hosts a wide range of perspectives on international relations but does not endorse any political party, government or ideological position.
Since its first episode in 2023, The IR thinker has produced more than 100 episodes as a pro bono initiative established by Martin Zubko, an international relations scholar and lecturer.
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The IR thinker features in-depth interviews with leading experts in international relations, foreign policy, and global affairs.
The IR thinker is an independent, non-partisan and non-aligned platform. It hosts a wide range of perspectives on international relations but does not endorse any political party, government or ideological position.
Since its first episode in 2023, The IR thinker has produced more than 100 episodes as a pro bono initiative established by Martin Zubko, an international relations scholar and lecturer.
Available on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Amazon Music.
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, we sit down with political analyst Marc Saxer to explore his theory of Transformative Realism and why he believes we’re living through a profound systemic crisis. From the erosion of international norms to the urgent need for reimagined statecraft, Marc offers a compelling framework for understanding the forces reshaping our world and what political leadership must look like in response.
Marc Saxer is a political analyst, strategist, and writer with two decades of experience in international relations. He heads the Asia Pacific office of the Friedrich-Ebert-Shtiftung and convenes the Asia Strategic Foresight Group.
Publications:
Transformative Realism: How to overcome the system crisis
Content
00:00 - Introduction
01:38 - Understanding Transformative Realism
04:50 - Defining Systemic Crisis
07:39 - Marc’s Most Compelling Crisis Case Study
15:08 - The Erosion of International Norms and Rules
18:24 - Recognizing the Signs of Systemic Crisis
20:18 - The Role of Agency in Transformative Realism
28:18 - Reimagining Statecraft and Political Leadership
33:44 - The Crisis in Modern Statecraft Education
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