This week, Jann Arden welcomes media powerhouses Laura Brown and Kristina O'Neill, who discuss their new book, 'All the Cool Girls Get Fired.' The discussion revolves around the challenges women face in the workplace, particularly the stigma associated with being fired. They share personal stories about their career setbacks and reframe failure as an opportunity for growth. The conversation highlights the emotional impact of job loss, the significance of community support, and the need for women to own their narratives and embrace new opportunities. Ultimately, the episode serves as a reminder that setbacks can lead to new beginnings and that women are not alone in their struggles. They remind us all about the importance of self-worth, closure, and the power of experience.  Laura Brown is the founder of LB Media, and the chair of (RED)’s Creative Council. She sits on the boards of (RED), The Fashion Trust US, and me too. Movement, and Foot Soldiers Park, Selma. Previously, she was editor-in-chief ofInStyle, executive editor of Harper’s Bazaar, and senior editor at W. She earned her BA in arts and communication from Charles Sturt University in New South Wales, Australia. She lives in Manhattan with her husband.   Kristina O’Neill is head of Sotheby’s Media and editor in chief of Sotheby’s Magazine. Previously, she served as editor in chief of WSJ. Magazine, executive editor at Harper’s Bazaar, and worked at New York magazine and Time Out New York. O’Neill also serves on the board of Swedish fashion brand Toteme and is a City Meals ambassador. A graduate of NYU’s Gallatin School of Individualized Study, she serves on the Gallatin Alumni Council. O’Neill lives in Brooklyn with her family. https://www.simonandschuster.ca/books/All-the-Cool-Girls-Get-Fired/Laura-Brown/9781668067451 Jann, Caitlin & Sarah take some time to debrief on the Toronto Blue Jays epic World Series run and Jann reminds us about the power of forgiveness as she spends a few minutes paying tribute to her former manager Neil, reflecting on the significance of mending relationships before it’s too late.  Chapters (00:00) Introduction to the Powerhouses (03:02) The Catalyst for Writing the Book (05:57) Navigating the Aftermath of Being Fired (08:49) Understanding Personal Value and Job Loss (12:00) Opportunities Arising from Setbacks (14:57) Reframing Work and Identity (18:03) Ageism and Career Transitions (21:04) The Parallel Between Work and Personal Relationships (22:05) The Tequila Soaked Goodbye Bash (24:02) The Importance of Closure in Layoffs (25:58) Dealing with Anger and Revenge (27:26) Removing Shame from Job Loss (30:05) A Moment to Celebrate the Toronto Blue Jays (40:28) Reframing Career Set Backs (43:36) Personal Growth Through Adversity (45:50) Remembering Neil McGonigal: A Tribute (50:25) The Importance of Closure and Forgiveness (51:26) Voicenotes & Patreon This Week This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://betterhelp.com/jann⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and get 10% off your first month! #ASKJANN - want some life advice from Jann? Send in a story with a DM or on our website. Leave us a voicenote! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://jannardenpod.com/voicemail/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get access to bonus content and more on Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://patreon.com/JannArdenPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Connect with us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.jannardenpod.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.instagram.com/jannardenpod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.facebook.com/jannardenpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices