Jim talks with Lawrence Cahoone about the ideas in his book The Orders of Nature: An Introduction to the Philosophy of Complex Systems for the Life Sciences. They discuss how Cahoone's naturalist philosophy bridges multiple philosophical domains, his distinctive use of emergence theory borrowed from William Wimsatt, the concept of "no simples" in objective relativism, the role of Prigogine in emergence theory, Cahoone's self-taught approach to understanding physics and science, fallibilist and local metaphysics, Columbian naturalism and its rejection of the supernatural, the relationship between objects and their contexts, scientific explanations of relativity and quantum mechanics, and much more.