In this episode, Brian and BrianJames McMahon talk about the complexities of pain, suffering, and community within the context of disciple-making. We discuss the need to reimagine our relationship with pain, the importance of attachment in community, and the challenges posed by individualism. We emphasize the significance of practicing confession and lament as tools for building trust and fostering healthy relationships. Ultimately, we advocate for a deeper understanding of communal formation and the practical steps necessary to cultivate meaningful connections.