Shame isn't your fault, but healing it is your responsibility. Therapist Rebecca Prolman reveals how trauma creates toxic shame and how to break free.

In this profound conversation on The Kind Revolution Podcast, Dr. Georgine Nanos interviews Rebecca Prolman, a licensed therapist specializing in complex trauma through the NeuroAffective Relational Model (NARM). Rebecca shares her personal journey from harmful therapy experiences to becoming a trauma specialist, and breaks down the impossible dilemma children face that creates lifelong shame patterns.This episode explores how childhood wounds create survival strategies that become our adult coping mechanisms - from addiction and eating disorders to relationship reactivity and self-sabotage. Rebecca explains why shame feels so protective yet keeps us stuck, and shares practical steps for healing without getting overwhelmed.TIMESTAMPS:01:07 - Rebecca's journey from harmful therapy to healing03:45 - Introduction to NARM and complex trauma07:01 - How attachment wounds create toxic shame10:13 - The impossible dilemma children face13:05 - How shame shows up in adulthood16:23 - Practical steps to identify and heal shame22:35 - Rebecca's personal TMS experience28:15 - Common mental health myths debunked32:00 - Moving from coping to living fully34:10 - Hope for the future of mental healthWHAT YOU'LL LEARN:✓ Why children choose self-blame over heartbreak✓ How toxic shame differs from healthy shame✓ The connection between shame and addiction patterns✓ Why therapy sometimes makes trauma worse initially✓ How TMS helps unlock protective neural patterns✓ Practical exercises for shame identification✓ The difference between victimhood and healing✓ Why presence is the key to nervous system regulation✓ How trauma therapy modalities are evolvingKEY TOPICS COVERED:NeuroAffective Relational Model (NARM)Complex developmental traumaToxic shame vs healthy shameChildhood attachment woundsAdult coping mechanisms and addictionTMS therapy for trauma processingEmotional completion cyclesNervous system regulationTherapeutic relationship dynamicsMental health stigma and misconceptionsPerfect for anyone struggling with shame, self-worth issues, relationship patterns, addiction recovery, or supporting someone through trauma healing. Essential listening for understanding how childhood experiences shape adult mental health.ABOUT REBECCA PROLMAN:Licensed therapist specializing in complex trauma healing through NARM. Creator of online courses "The Roots of Healing" and "Reclaiming You: From Coping to Living Fully." Integrates spirituality, astrology, and holistic approaches with evidence-based trauma therapy.ABOUT DR. GEORGINE NANOS:Board-certified physician specializing in comprehensive wellness, TMS therapy, and women's health. Serving patients worldwide through telemedicine and in-person care in North County San Diego.KIND HEALTH GROUP & KIND TMS📍 North County San Diego, California🌍 Serving patients worldwide via telemedicine🏥 Comprehensive wellness and TMS therapy🌐 [kindtms.com](http://kindtms.com/)CONNECT WITH REBECCA PROLMAN:🌐 Website: [rebeccaprolman.com](http://rebeccaprolman.com/)📱 Instagram: @rebeccaprolmanThis conversation offers hope that healing is possible, shame can be released, and we can move from survival mode to truly living fully.SHARE THIS EPISODE: Help others understand that their struggles aren't character flaws - they're survival strategies that can be healed.If you're experiencing thoughts of self-harm or suicide, please reach out for immediate support: 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. This content is for educational purposes and should not replace professional mental health care.