In Episode 114 of The Knitting Pilgrim Talks, Kirk spends time with Imam Jamal Rahman of the Interfaith Community Sanctuary in Seattle discussing the section of the Islamic tapestry that features a set of scales with the new millennium on one side and the year of the Prophet Muhammad’s death on the other. They talk about Islam’s challenge in balancing the past with the present, and a reminder that the progressive anti-patriarchal ideas of the Prophet are very much in line with the modern world.

"Why is it, in each of the (Abrahamic) traditions, there is so much exclusivity, violence, patriarchy, and homophobia?" - Imam Jamal Rahman