Episode 130 throws open the most heated debate in rugby. Harry and MW go headfirst into the question of who truly deserves the title of the greatest rugby team of all time. The Springboks of today are compared to the All Blacks of their golden era, not only on results but on evolution, coaching, cohesion and how the sport itself has transformed. The discussion ranges from Jake White hypotheticals to the significance of analytics, to why some teams adapt and others stay stuck in past glory. Nothing about this debate is simple, and that is exactly why it is so gripping. Join us for a conversation that will challenge your rugby instincts and maybe even your loyalties.