No notes, no structure, no plan. Just a proper end-of-year Festive Special for Episode 136 of The Lekker Rugby Pod, the way these conversations usually happen off-air. From Harry Index debates and coaching philosophies to life after rugby, why contentment is underrated, and MW's very real pain of being a Bulls fan right now.This is the Lekker Rugby Pod at its loosest and most honest. Equal parts frustration, humour and perspective. A long conversation, a few laughs, a few deep turns, and that familiar feeling that you don’t get anywhere else. If you know, you know.