This episode, I speak with Jeff Bednar, Associate Professor of Organizational Behavior and Human Resources in the BYU Marriott School of Business at Brigham Young University. In our conversation, we talk about a recent paper he published in AMJ, with co-author, Jacob Brown, about ‘Organizational Ghosts’. The paper explores how leaders continue to influence behaviors and emotions within the organization long after they are gone. This leads to a larger conversation about heroes and heroic legacy in organizations and what happens when a this legacy is challenged or when these legacies prevent the organization from change.