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The Lizard Eats Its Tail: Who Are You Talking To? Identity, Psychology, and the Marketing Gap
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16 episodes
7 hours ago
What if marketing wasn’t about targeting — but timing? In this debut episode, Brandon Keenen explores how identity evolves across life stages and why the best brands go beyond demographics. Drawing from Erikson, Jung, and real-world experience (including BuzzFeed’s fall from Millennial dominance), we break down the psychology behind influence, and how brands can stay relevant as their audience grows. You’ll love this episode if: You’re a marketer tired of surface-level “personas” You want to understand how identity shapes behavior You’re building a brand that lasts in an AI Driven World
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What if marketing wasn’t about targeting — but timing? In this debut episode, Brandon Keenen explores how identity evolves across life stages and why the best brands go beyond demographics. Drawing from Erikson, Jung, and real-world experience (including BuzzFeed’s fall from Millennial dominance), we break down the psychology behind influence, and how brands can stay relevant as their audience grows. You’ll love this episode if: You’re a marketer tired of surface-level “personas” You want to understand how identity shapes behavior You’re building a brand that lasts in an AI Driven World
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The Lizard Eats Its Tail Episode 9: The Aspirational Gap: How to Inspire Without Losing People
The Lizard Eats Its Tail: Who Are You Talking To? Identity, Psychology, and the Marketing Gap
6 minutes
7 months ago
The Lizard Eats Its Tail Episode 9: The Aspirational Gap: How to Inspire Without Losing People

We follow people who make us feel like we’re becoming someone better.

That’s the core of aspiration.
And yet, in modern marketing, aspirational branding is often misunderstood. It's either reduced to a highlight reel of perfection or inflated into a fantasy so distant it becomes meaningless.

In this episode of The Lizard Eating Its Tail, host Brandon Keenen explores the psychological power of aspiration , and what it really means to build a brand, message, or presence that pulls people forward without pushing them away.

Because there’s a line.

If your message feels too elite, too perfect, or too far removed from where your audience is right now, you don’t inspire them; you isolate them.
On the other hand, if your message feels too close to where they already are, it doesn't spark ambition ...it feels flat.

The brands that win in 2025 are the ones that mirror identity in motion: they show you where you could go and make you feel like you’re already on the way there.

Brandon breaks down the psychology behind this with:

  • Self-Discrepancy Theory (actual self vs. ideal self)

  • The emotional positioning of modern brands like Alo Moves, Notion, Two Chicks Egg Whites, Glossier, and others

  • A practical look at what separates “motivating” from “alienating” in aspirational messaging

He also unpacks:

  • How personal brands and leaders can be aspirational without posturing

  • Why progress, not perfection, is what people are really drawn to

  • The secret to creating a brand that makes people say, “I see myself in that — and I want more.”

This episode also includes a tactical framework for creating aspirational messaging that lands:

  1. Start with recognizable starting points show the “before” state, not just the after

  2. Offer micro-wins that create a sense of momentum, not pressure

  3. Use a tone of guidance, not comparison

  4. Anchor aspiration in real, emotional human needs, like clarity, energy, identity, and control

In a world where marketing often tries to manipulate, escalate, or dominate the narrative, this episode offers a reset, a reframe of aspiration as something intimate, grounded, and profoundly human.

Because the truth is:
People don’t follow perfection.
They follow possibility. As long as it still feels like theirs.

If you’re a brand builder, strategist, creator, or founder trying to inspire without disconnecting — this episode is for you.
It’s a reminder that aspiration isn’t about who shouts the loudest or looks the best.
It’s about who can say:

“I see who you’re trying to become.
And I built this for that version of you.”

Key ideas in this episode:

  • The psychology of aspiration vs. alienation

  • Modern brand examples that inspire with relatability

  • Why people want brands that reflect their identity in progress

  • Tactical tips for writing copy and creating brand experiences that motivate without pressure

Whether you’re writing a campaign, shaping a voice, or building a company from scratch — this is a masterclass in emotional alignment, psychological resonance, and the art of becoming a brand people believe in.


The Lizard Eats Its Tail: Who Are You Talking To? Identity, Psychology, and the Marketing Gap
What if marketing wasn’t about targeting — but timing? In this debut episode, Brandon Keenen explores how identity evolves across life stages and why the best brands go beyond demographics. Drawing from Erikson, Jung, and real-world experience (including BuzzFeed’s fall from Millennial dominance), we break down the psychology behind influence, and how brands can stay relevant as their audience grows. You’ll love this episode if: You’re a marketer tired of surface-level “personas” You want to understand how identity shapes behavior You’re building a brand that lasts in an AI Driven World