What happens when ICE shows up uninvited—on your turf, in your city, under federal orders? This explosive joint episode of The Logical Lawyer and It’s That Part features retired LAPD lieutenants Otis Dobin and Byron Roberts as they reveal the behind-the-scenes chaos when federal power collides with community policing. Hosts Bernie Brown and Jesse Lee Hammonds lead a sobering conversation on mass detentions, the erosion of civil rights, executive overreach, and the real-world consequences of silence. From broken families to manipulated redistricting maps, the episode cuts deep into America’s democratic backslide and what’s left to protect.Listen in for lived experiences, legal clarity, and a roadmap to reclaim our rights.