Bored of the same BS Marketing podcasts? With insights from the sharpest minds in the world, Daniel Murray unpacks their playbooks just for you to take into your weekly Marketing meeting.
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Bored of the same BS Marketing podcasts? With insights from the sharpest minds in the world, Daniel Murray unpacks their playbooks just for you to take into your weekly Marketing meeting.
We'll get deep into the conversation with Marketing leaders from companies like Gymshark, Shopify, and Infiniti. Every week you'll hear from guests who run 9-figure businesses, manage communities of 20M+ people, and execute the campaigns you see on your timeline every day. The best part? We'll give you ALL of their actionable insights.
From building profitable newsletters to scaling on TikTok, Daniel gets into all of it. The one request he makes to all his guests? Stories or it didn't happen.
If you want to be part of The Marketing Millennials community, join in the conversation.
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Product vs. Performance: How Modern Brands Really Scale with Ari Murray and Stefani O'Sullivan (From Marketingland 2025) | Ep. 369
The Marketing Millennials
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3 days ago
Product vs. Performance: How Modern Brands Really Scale with Ari Murray and Stefani O'Sullivan (From Marketingland 2025) | Ep. 369
What really scales a modern brand: product or performance?
From Marketingland 2025, Ari Murray sits down with growth powerhouse Stefani O’Sullivan (STAUD, Savage X Fenty, Moda Operandi, Chanel) for a deep dive into how today’s most resilient brands actually grow. Stefani breaks down the truth behind two very different paths: Product-led growth (STAUD, RHODE, category disruptors) and Marketing-led growth (DTC engines powered by paid media).
They unpack:
> The real tradeoffs between product-first and performance-first models
> How product intuition, merchandising, and customer feedback shape long-term equity
> When to expand into CTV, OOH, retail media, and how to know it’s actually working
> Why consistency matters, but context matters more
Whether you’re leading a growth team, scaling your first brand, or rethinking how product and performance should truly work together, this conversation will challenge your assumptions…and reveal why the smartest path to scale might not be the one you expect.
CallRail is the lead engagement platform built for marketers who need clean attribution, smarter insights, and zero missed leads. From AI-powered call tracking and conversation intelligence to a 24/7 AI voice agent, CallRail helps teams maximize every inbound touchpoint and convert more leads into customers.
Visit https://www.callrail.com/proveit?utm_campaign=q4_2025_marketing_millennials_podcast&utm_medium=thirdparty_advertising&utm_source=marketingmillennials to check it out.
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The Marketing Millennials
Bored of the same BS Marketing podcasts? With insights from the sharpest minds in the world, Daniel Murray unpacks their playbooks just for you to take into your weekly Marketing meeting.
We'll get deep into the conversation with Marketing leaders from companies like Gymshark, Shopify, and Infiniti. Every week you'll hear from guests who run 9-figure businesses, manage communities of 20M+ people, and execute the campaigns you see on your timeline every day. The best part? We'll give you ALL of their actionable insights.
From building profitable newsletters to scaling on TikTok, Daniel gets into all of it. The one request he makes to all his guests? Stories or it didn't happen.
If you want to be part of The Marketing Millennials community, join in the conversation.
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-marketing-millennials
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_marketing_millennials
And if you love the show, tell a friend.
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