In this episode, I sit down with my new friend Don Barbour — a conversation that started with uncertainty and ended with a real sense of brotherhood. I met Don just a week before we recorded, and something about his energy told me he had a story worth sharing. Still, as I drove down to San Clemente, that familiar voice of doubt started creeping in — telling me the interview might be awkward, short, or that I’d freeze up mid-conversation. It’s the same voice that pops up when I’m teaching, dating, or doing anything that matters. But once again, that voice was wrong.

What followed was nearly two hours of honest, open dialogue that left me feeling energized and grateful. Don shared stories that reminded me of how capable we all are of rising from our lowest points and growing into something far greater than we imagined. I left that day knowing I had gained not just an episode, but a new connection — someone I now consider a brother. This conversation pushed me past fear and up another step toward my potential. I hope it inspires you to do the same.