In this episode, Ben and Ed take the scenic route from champagne debates and cam belt updates to the bigger stuff that really matters: how we think, feel, and function differently.

They explore how neurodiversity shapes creativity, motivation, and the way we connect with others—especially in franchising. From training and recruitment to exhibitions and community, the conversation highlights why embracing different minds isn’t just good for people, it’s good for business.

And of course, because it’s Ben and Ed, there’s a detour into ska music—its rebellious roots, cultural impact, and the way music can lift moods, build belonging, and keep us moving forward (even when the cam belt doesn’t).

It’s thoughtful, funny, and just a little bit offbeat - exactly how we like it.

TRACK OF THE WEEK

Ed - Destroy Me by President - https://open.spotify.com/track/5sdqwzp1kSHHqTFsyfhrZW?si=da701041a8cb49ff

Ben - Play Some Ska by Random Hand - https://open.spotify.com/track/61uH7qBeQqVGfnCK26OQ8L?si=776cfeb935ea4ebd

BONUS TRACK

Moonlighting by Maromaro - https://open.spotify.com/track/3wMyxsZByy8BDYSwv6ZvF0?si=91287ca0c1854468