In this episode of The Modern Taoist Podcast, we explore one of Laozi’s most challenging but liberating teachings: “In pursuit of the Tao, every day something is dropped.”

What if the way forward isn’t about adding more — more apps, more systems, more goals — but about letting go? We’ll talk about the Taoist paradox of less: why subtraction creates space, how to simplify without retreating from life, and how living with less opens the door to more presence, more breath, and more joy.

If you’ve been feeling stretched thin, this conversation will remind you that the Way isn’t about chasing — it’s about returning.