In today’s episode, Saima and Arman are joined by Dr. Andy Kough, a marine biologist at the Shedd Aquarium, to explore the fascinating parallels between clinical psychology and the natural world. Together, they dive into how creatures like the queen conch and lobster reflect our own human experiences; patience, vulnerability, and growth. From the endurance of the conch to the transformative molting of the lobster, this conversation unpacks how nature mirrors the therapeutic process and what it means to heal, adapt, and find strength in community.

If you’re interested to learn more, visit the Shedd Aquarium to learn more about the remarkable ecosystems and creatures that remind us what it means to be resilient beneath the waves