Question: Do you agree that Kamala Harris is not interesting and charismatic enough to be considered a leader? Twin Brothers Ricardo and Renaldo McKenzie debate whether Kamala was uncharismatic and not interesting during the last presidential election and throughout her time as VP and on Rachel Maddow Show last night 9.22.2025. It was former Presidential Candidate Kamala Harris first Live TV interview since loosing which also happen to mark the eve of the release of her new book. So the timing was no coincidence.

Nevertheless the show is intersting as the twins get heated over the topic. Ricardo on Phone and Renaldo in studios.

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🎙️ Podcast Script

The Pulse, Part 21 — Twins Debate Kamala’s Lack of Charisma

INTRO (Host):
Welcome back to The Pulse. Today, the Twins spar over a sticky question: does charisma matter more than competence — and what does that mean for Kamala Harris? Buckle up.

BEAT 1 — Opening & Set-up
The Twins set the scene, warming the audience up with humor and framing the debate around “charisma” as not just style, but a political currency that either builds bridges or burns them.

BEAT 2 — Charisma vs. Competence
They wrestle with whether voters are persuaded by gravitas, policy chops, or just good vibes. One insists that competence should win out; the other argues that without charisma, the competence never gets heard.

BEAT 3 — Kamala Harris’s Record & Narrative
The talk shifts to Harris’s background: prosecutor, Senator, now VP. They ask — why hasn’t that résumé translated into presence on the national stage?

BEAT 4 — Comparisons & 2024/2025 Landscape
The Twins draw comparisons with Biden, Trump, and others. Polls, debates, swing voters — does Harris have the juice to cut through the noise?

BEAT 5 — Media Framing & Gender/Race
They critique the press: how much of this “charisma gap” is her, and how much is media bias against a Black woman in power?

BEAT 6 — Policy Substance
They highlight the disconnect: voters hear about vibes, not Harris’s policy work on the economy, student loans, and foreign affairs.

BEAT 7 — Listener Q&A / Closing
Questions roll in — is “likability” just a code word? Or does charisma, like oxygen, simply vanish when absent?

OUTRO (Host):
That’s today’s pulse check. If you learned something, send this to a friend, rate the show, and let us know what we missed. Until next time — keep your mind sharp and your heart open.