Tune in to The Only Constant for insights you haven’t heard before - and for deep conversations at the intersection of business, technology, and AI, where the only thing that stays the same is change.<br /><br />This podcast is for those who prioritize exploration over explanation.<br />For those who enjoy difficult questions more than easy answers.<br />For anyone looking to stay ahead and relevant in an age of accelerating change.<br /><br />Join host Lasse Rindom as he speaks with global thought leaders about how AI and emerging technologies are actually being adopted in enterprise settings. Episodes explore the challenges of scaling generative AI, governing stochastic systems, embedding human-in-the-loop approaches, and confronting ethical trade-offs.<br /><br />With a focus on pragmatic strategy, past automation lessons, and a touch of business philosophy, this podcast dives deep into how organizations deal with unstructured data, real implementation hurdles, and the messy reality of transformation.<br /><br />Sponsored by Basico.<br />Driven by curiosity.
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Tune in to The Only Constant for insights you haven’t heard before - and for deep conversations at the intersection of business, technology, and AI, where the only thing that stays the same is change.<br /><br />This podcast is for those who prioritize exploration over explanation.<br />For those who enjoy difficult questions more than easy answers.<br />For anyone looking to stay ahead and relevant in an age of accelerating change.<br /><br />Join host Lasse Rindom as he speaks with global thought leaders about how AI and emerging technologies are actually being adopted in enterprise settings. Episodes explore the challenges of scaling generative AI, governing stochastic systems, embedding human-in-the-loop approaches, and confronting ethical trade-offs.<br /><br />With a focus on pragmatic strategy, past automation lessons, and a touch of business philosophy, this podcast dives deep into how organizations deal with unstructured data, real implementation hurdles, and the messy reality of transformation.<br /><br />Sponsored by Basico.<br />Driven by curiosity.
Episode #76 | Nandan Mullakara | On the deception of clarity, and the challenge of scaling control
The Only Constant
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Episode #76 | Nandan Mullakara | On the deception of clarity, and the challenge of scaling control
In this episode, Lasse Rindom speaks with Nandan Mullakara, automation strategist and author, about the future of automation and how AI, RPA, and APIs are evolving - not competing. Their conversation moves from the practical to the philosophical, exploring what happens when orchestration itself becomes intelligent:
Why it’s not AI or RPA, but AI and RPA - and how the “AND operator” mindset might be the real key to modern automation and IT
The difference between legibility and illegibility in business systems, and how AI challenges our instinct to make everything orderly
Why AI doesn’t eliminate work but actually creates more of it - and what that means for digital maturity
The coming tension between control and trust as organizations hand over decisions to machine intelligence
How agentic automation could dissolve the boundaries between processes, people, and systems
It’s a conversation about cycles, complexity, and coexistence - and why, in Nandan’s words, RPA was never born and will never die.
Do you want to know more about Nandan Mullakare?
Nandan Mullakara is a globally recognized leader in AI‑led automation and Agentic AI, ranked among the Top 200 World’s Most Influential Voices in AI by Favikon. He is co‑author of best‑selling books Agentic Artificial Intelligence and Robotic Process Automation Projects, cited widely across academia and industry (Google Scholar). He is featured in Onalytica’s Who’s Who in Automation.
As the founder of Bot Nirvana, Nandan advises enterprises on Agentic AI and Intelligent Automation—from strategy and operating models to measurable outcomes. He also hosts the Bot Nirvana AI & Automation Podcast, ranked among the top shows in its category for pragmatic, practitioner‑first conversations.
Previously, Nandan led Robotic Process Automation (RPA) practice and Application Managed Services (AMS) projects at Fujitsu Americas. He has driven initiatives for global companies such as Honeywell, BCBS, Canon, and Embraer.
His insights and articles have been featured by esteemed outlets including Forbes, Solutions Review, Tech Report, and Packt. Explore interviews on Onalytica, Engatica, Excelcult, Coding over Cocktails, and Kieran Gilmurray.
The Only Constant
Tune in to The Only Constant for insights you haven’t heard before - and for deep conversations at the intersection of business, technology, and AI, where the only thing that stays the same is change.<br /><br />This podcast is for those who prioritize exploration over explanation.<br />For those who enjoy difficult questions more than easy answers.<br />For anyone looking to stay ahead and relevant in an age of accelerating change.<br /><br />Join host Lasse Rindom as he speaks with global thought leaders about how AI and emerging technologies are actually being adopted in enterprise settings. Episodes explore the challenges of scaling generative AI, governing stochastic systems, embedding human-in-the-loop approaches, and confronting ethical trade-offs.<br /><br />With a focus on pragmatic strategy, past automation lessons, and a touch of business philosophy, this podcast dives deep into how organizations deal with unstructured data, real implementation hurdles, and the messy reality of transformation.<br /><br />Sponsored by Basico.<br />Driven by curiosity.